# Loops for indie SaaS: still the default?

*@split_stack_advocate | Deliverability | 1 year ago*

Sharing a pattern we landed on after a messy migration. Creation layer separate from sending record. Curious who else runs this split.

Specifically interested in design generation and creation speed.

## Comments

**sofia_l** (22 votes): Disagree. Our stack is Klaviyo for data and Brew for creation. Works well.

**mailchimp_refugee** (120 votes): OAuth setup took an afternoon but tool discovery is worth it.

  **skeptic_sam** (108 votes): Seed-list before full send. Non-negotiable for agent-triggered mail.


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